Friday’s Trading – 5/15/09

Greed Shoots Bulls
The difference between “green” and “greed” is only one letter, and it looks like the “green shoots” have turned into something deadly to the bulls. Ms. Market will likely be wanting to punish the casino-like action that we’ve seen in the market recently. So, even if the market doesn’t crash again, new highs in the near future to open the gates of the bull trap and release the suffering bulls are probably unlikely.

Saturday Night Live Spoofs the Stress Tests
Watch here.

XLF
Keep an eye on the XLF Friday. It made a bullish engulfing candle on Thursday, and may try to lead the market higher. Otherwise, things look rather bearish.

88 Responses to “Friday’s Trading – 5/15/09”

  1. K says:

    xlf might be poised to move up but on the 13th in second half of the day I received a sell signal. at 11.75. if the signal turns into a buy i will alert the rest of you (those that care anyways :) )

    spx i think we can still see 907(even though I’m heavily short) before heading to 850′s

  2. George says:

    XLF weekly at this time of the week is an inside day. It was stopped by the 36MA on that time frame. Hesitating before another move.

    The 60min got a fresh cross Thursday.

  3. K says:

    what about the 4hr george ? :P those 60 minute ones are so obvious. i got used to 4hr on forex

  4. George says:

    K,

    The XLF 4hr went in an uptrend on March 11. I have to admit, I like what I see on the 4hr WITH the 60min. This could be the combo that has a Southern style – slow-n-easy trades between naps, y’all.

  5. George says:

    According to my channel trendlines on SPY 60min, price dipped below the bottom line and tested it 6 times each hour with the last candle being red.

    On the 240min it is still within its channel trendlines resting on the 36MA.

  6. dblwyo says:

    That SNL spoof is hysterical – literally in several senses. And would be funnier if it weren’t so sad. Check out these JetBlue ads for CEOS having to fly commercial when you get a chance:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYUrv9FqxKw (JB2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmDiDJ7QrdU (JB1)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v3aWFjYq-U (JB3)

    And just to put a point on it from Le Mis – the ultimate assessment of how the people feel:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-5g78Nr6Q
    Otherwise known as “Do You Hear the People Sing”

  7. George says:

    Question:

    Does the cash market affect the futures or the other way around?

  8. George says:

    The market will go up today on this news from MarketWatch:

    “U.S. retail prices drop at fastest annual rate in 54 years”.

  9. Julie says:

    George,
    When you have some free time do your
    health and your wife’s health a favor
    and google…vitamin d research…read
    a few reports.
    Hope you have a great trading day.

  10. Yerk says:

    George, well the futures gap less than the cash market so imo they lead.

  11. Stringm says:

    George

    Have you played with any backtesting in SD yet?

    String

  12. narrowminds says:

    Hil folks, took the opex week off, but just wanted to let you know, that as per an emergency NW update which came in yesterday the max low id 876, then a shoot up to 975, before the decline starts.

  13. narrowminds says:

    also as per nw, the suggestion is to enter long, as it may or may not go as low as 876.

  14. George says:

    Julie,

    Appreciate the vitamin D tip. I will certainly do that.

    Thanks

  15. George says:

    Yerk, thanks. I don’t quite understand the relationship between the two and how they affect each other.

  16. George says:

    Stringm,

    I have played with the backtest in SD. I’ve not been able to make it work the way I need. Still playing.

  17. K says:

    ok george so the skf buy signal turns out to be a fakeout for now :P
    but not much was lost (except me entering at 155 which i can’t stop thinking about)

  18. MKB says:

    Narrowminds:

    Seems like chicanery to me – op ex seems to me to be dictating an 896 to 910 range for today. I’m inclined to lean long over coming months but not too heavy/reckless unless I’m pushed.

  19. narrowminds says:

    This is an expert from NW emergecy update which was sent yesterday at 9:00am est, sorry I was out an about so did not get to see it:

    For those of you anxious to trade, you might consider the following. Take a Long position at 876.00 (buy-limit in Jun. S&P eMini futures) with a sell-stop at 849.00). This is not a low risk trade, so please adjust position size to keep risk at 1% of total capital. Our target will be well above 950, possibly 975 or even 1000. The exact target cannot be determined at this time. If you don’t want to take a chance on missing the S&P’s final rally, you can enter now (currently 884.00 Jun) with a smaller position (risk still 1%) using the same 849 stop.

  20. narrowminds says:

    emergency — sorry sp mistake

  21. George says:

    K,

    SKF is a fakeout? Start spreading some good news and the market will tank. :)

  22. K says:

    let’s do just that george :)

  23. George says:

    SSO/SPY is at 15min 36MA support, trying to use it to go up.

  24. George says:

    Now the SSO 5min 36MA is resistance. May ping-pong a bit here until direction is established.

  25. George says:

    I bought the 1min for a scalp, then I ask myself, would I buy the 5min? NO; would I buy the 15min? NO.

  26. George says:

    That’s on SSO.

  27. George says:

    Intraday double tops.

  28. Chris says:

    Narrowminds, excuse my ignorance, but what is “NW”?

    Thanks

  29. George says:

    SSO 15min MACD trendlines nearing the zero line. Not unusual for it to bounce up around that area. I watch the 1 and 5min stochastics for price action.

  30. George says:

    SSO will hit a 1min double top here plus 5min 36MA resistance. 5min looks good. Will see what it does here.

  31. George says:

    … another one of those situations where all the stochastics bottomed out and went up together. Nice.

  32. Julie says:

    narrowminds,
    Thanks for the NW update. We never subscribed
    to the high price service…only the forecast…let
    us know how you like it.
    Welcome back…have a great day…and weekend.

  33. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    A morsel for your gut.
    In strong trends moves in the opposite direction
    should not last more than 4 days. If they do, change
    is on the horizon.

  34. phil says:

    george……i know u trade bbt so u may want to note 200dema of $bkx and upper daily bollinger band both sit at 42.72….might be a nice target for final rally

  35. George says:

    Phil, thanks. What settings are you using for BB?

  36. phil says:

    george…..20,2,2……whatever that means ….lol

  37. George says:

    Okay, I’ll use that… tks

  38. Stringm says:

    Julie

    I luckily don’t pay much attention to my gut. My gut and the market are never in step. I have been paying closer attention to the 20DMA since your recent posts. I am trying to think more about the price of the 20 DMA
    rather than it just being a line on the chart. While the average is still going up the rate of daily change has sure slowed. I would think after to rally we have had that sideways consolidation might start. Anyway I have give up thinking and just stated doing. I have adopted the George state of mind, see it do, don’t think about it.

    String

  39. Stringm says:

    I am giving up on posting, I can’t type and I don’t want to look stupid anymore.

  40. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    Please do not give up posting.

  41. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    In our humble opinion, the SPX defines the
    intermediate term (IT) trend of the market.
    It turns slowly (most of the time) at tops
    and quickly at bottoms. At bottoms big
    traders have a ton of money and are eager
    to take every penny the shorts have. If
    you trade the IT trend this is the best
    time to start…if your’re early, the market
    will forgive you by a quick acceleration off
    the bottom. Your problem will be where
    to take your profits.

  42. Julie says:

    Stringm-
    I screwed up…prior post should read…
    the SPX 20 DMA defines the intermediate
    term (IT) trend of rge market.
    Sorry.

  43. George says:

    Will be interesting to see what happens when SDS gets up to that $60.80 double top on 5min.

  44. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    Another typo…the market.
    I give up.

  45. George says:

    Stringm,

    You’re posts are good. You have to post. It’s required. ;)

    Now, let’s get some (more) inverse if it busts this double top.

  46. Stringm says:

    Julie

    You might have to tell me where the bottom is. My problem is I always take my profits too early, and I shy away from trades because I hate to lose.

    String

  47. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    No one can tell you where the bottom is…it’s
    always guesswork. On the last move down, the
    SPX moved down for about 45 days…our limit
    which is right at times and wrong at times.
    At the bottom there were positive divergences.
    Let’s say you bought SPX calls at 750 thinking
    that was the bottom instead of 668. The quick
    acceleration off of 668 put you in profit quickly.
    We are still long our IT trend trades. At tops
    you may have to roll your SPX puts…or move
    them up for 50 cents on the dollar. We like
    futures for the IT term trades and options
    for the short term (ST) trend trades. Options
    are easy to fix if you’re timing is off. Futures
    require more care.

  48. Stringm says:

    Julie

    What do you define ST trend with 10DMA or 8?

    String

  49. George says:

    Stringm,

    What time frame do you trade?

  50. Julie says:

    Stringm,
    For short term trades we study the wave. I
    don’t recall when I posted it, but the prior
    wave up made us look at a SPX top last
    Friday in the 922 area. I had the day right
    …but the top was in the 930 area. We
    .only do ST trend trades on corrections.

  51. George says:

    Opex today? Explains the action thus far.

  52. George says:

    Julie,

    I’m not sure what wave you’re talking about, but I sure like cycles. If waves are anything like that, I can see how they would benefit.

  53. Julie says:

    George,
    We looked at the SPX wave up prior to
    the one that had a 930 top. That wave
    leasted 13 days and moved up a certain
    amount…making us think the current
    wave at that time would top last Friday
    in the 922 area. We had the day right
    …but the level wrong leading us to
    think there is one more wave up. If
    the size of that wave is less than
    the prior wave, we may be close to
    an IT top.

  54. Julie says:

    George, The prior SPX wave up took 13
    days and had an amplitude of 103.34.
    If the next SPX wave up starts off of
    the SPX 20 DMA, it will have a target
    of 984.66, but today we feel it will
    struggle to move above 954….will
    keep our eyes on delta/day.

  55. George says:

    Stringm,

    I don’t like losing either. I HATE losing. I don’t even like to write the word. There are ways to trade with very little loss and in some cases, win/loss ratios come out on the winning side while losses are a part of the process – for example, mechanical systems.

    I like to scalp because I’m in control. I can manage the trade whereas a mechanical system is playing the odds. I like mechanical systems, but only use them as part of the trading tools. My bread-n-butter comes from scalping.

    I don’t expect much when I scalp. I don’t hold on long unless price rockets to the moon like it is in the inverse today. Often, I may only get .10-.20 cents, and at times only .05c, but I’m always making money. I buy a lot of shares and skim the cream. Buying too few shares means having to hang on longer to profit the same.

    On real action-packed days, I will get dollars instead of cents. Doesn’t matter – I’m always making money. I don’t have a goal, I merely get what the market provides.

    I used to swing-trade the daily stochastic cycles. Then I saw a lady who started each month with $100,000 and scalped for pennies. I believe the futures, and she was making tens of thousands of dollars monthly. Then I saw a guy on the Internet who was in Vegas, took a stock… any stock someone there recommended and made money. I knew then and there, that’s what I wanted to be able to do. He didn’t say how he did it but I figured out my own method.

    I trade with the stochastic and MACD cycles. They work hand-in-hand in painting a price movement picture for entries and exits.

    Hope this helps.

    Scalps-Я-Us

  56. George says:

    Julie, that’s cool stuff.

  57. George says:

    Dip-buying on the underlying is back in vogue.

  58. Julie says:

    George,
    Congrats! Make sure you give youself a
    pat on the back at the end of each day
    …and treat your wife at least once per
    week plus a few big vacations each year.

    Have a great day…and weekend.

  59. George says:

    Matt,

    I got in SRS 15min at 23.41 based upon the charts you posted on the “7 common breakout patterns.” Worked great on this one when it dropped back to the 9MA and moved up while MACD was still positive.

    THANKS

  60. George says:

    Julie,

    Will do… Deb and I are going to Va. Celtic festival and to Charleston SC next month. A few days R&R.

    You do the same…

    Thanks

  61. Julie says:

    George,
    Thanks. Enjoy your R&R.

  62. George says:

    Closed 3/4 SRS trade for $1.00 plus change.

  63. George says:

    SDS going back up to retest that top.

  64. George says:

    Finally busting out… hope it holds.

    SKF $80, here we come! (ha, in about a year) :)

  65. admin says:

    George,

    Beautiful. Which one of the “7 common breakout patterns” did you use on SRS?

    Matt

  66. George says:

    Matt,

    It was the bull flag. It was also a rounded bottom of the 9MA trendline.

  67. admin says:

    Nicely done.

  68. phil says:

    bullish divegence on 5 and 15 min spx …ergo i am covering my short from spx 895 this am….good weekend to all

  69. George says:

    I’m out of SRS now.

    Thanks

  70. George says:

    phil,

    WTG…

  71. George says:

    This market should take the lead role in the next “Die Hard” movie.

  72. phil says:

    george thanks…..i knew 896 was a brick wall from yesterday

  73. MKB says:

    You too phil!

  74. phil says:

    george i still think we need one more low before we rally but its late…maybe gap down monday

  75. George says:

    StockCharts put a message on screen ” Canadian markets have stopped trading due to a technical problem.”

  76. George says:

    phil,

    I agree about a low. I was thinking we would go a lot lower from here. The higher time frames on SKF look promising as well as the daily. SDS daily moving up too. I expect it to back off toward 9MA then move up from there.

  77. MKB says:

    thx phil.

  78. Julie says:

    Check…lbrgroup.com…for info on free
    Sunday show on how to use Photon
    Trader.

  79. George says:

    Stringm,

    You’ve been quite since my post. Did I say something that upset you? Sorry if I did.

  80. K says:

    JUST A REMINDER I’LL BE UPDATING MY PICKS LATER ON TONIGHT SO CHECK IN THIS WEEKEND FOR LATEST CHANGES :)

    SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT THE CAPS LOCK IS STUCK AND I FELT LIKE POSTING BEFORE I RESTART COMPUTER.

    HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND

  81. George says:

    K,

    Can’t wait.

  82. MKB says:

    K,

    Sorry ’bout your Bruins.

  83. Stringm says:

    George

    By no means did you upset me. I went and played raquetball, just got back. I am coming around to your way of thinking on scalps. I was planning on spending time backtesting the setup you described today on SRS. I will post the code if I come up with something. Trying to get all the relationships between time frames is tricky. You entered that trade just after the 9MA on the 15min chart crossed the mid Bollinger Band, which I have set at 21 ma. I see where the 36 knocked it back, and the 9 caught it and it took off. Anyway I am still thinking about it. Remember George I am a native Texan, if you had upset me you would’ve known.

    String

  84. George says:

    Stringm,

    That’s right, Texans tell it like it is…

    Hey, I meant to complete the writeup of what I do. I forgot about Single Screen Scalps (SSS). I was going to do that when life interrupted me for several weeks.

    I’ll get back on that.

    Thanks Stringm, maybe together we can get something going that will be very beneficial.

  85. K says:

    MKB, it was a tough game but the best team won.
    As long as the celtics win tomorrow I’ll be fine.

    It was either a bruins fan reading today’s Metro or a prideful CEO of some company. But It seems like someone jumped/fell in front of the train.

    It held me back from my schedule today and caused me to be unproductive lol and it is a sad ending of life while disturbing others.

  86. K says:

    and I meant sunday’s Celtics game not tomorrow sorry