Thursday’s Trading – 12/10/09

Since I mentioned the XLU utilities ETF back here, it is up 0.68% nicely outperforming the SPX, which is down 1.65%. However, with oil rolling over, it’s starting to look like the smart money has moved into the utes as a defensive play. Utilities pay nice, safe dividends.

George has mentioned the tight Bollinger Bands on the daily charts, and they are indeed tight. Though in the case of USO, they’re getting stretched – to the downside. That’s not a good thing. If I get time, I will post a chart, but the Fractal Dimension Index on USO’s daily chart is only down to 1.49, indicating that the trend is not yet mature. The FDI is not magic, but it is saying that there is more room on the downside. For the bulls, USO did have heavy volume on Wednesday, and the last time it did that, on September 23rd, it did indeed mark a swing low.

The traders on Fast Money have been hopeful about gold all week. So I would expect gold to keep falling until they barf up their longs, get short, and turn negative.

72 Responses to “Thursday’s Trading – 12/10/09”

  1. Julie says:

    Larry,
    Hard to believe that other countries cook
    the numbers more than the U.S.

  2. Julie says:

    George,
    Google…geyser heat pump hot water heater…
    Claim you use 370% less electricy to heat water.
    The hook-up they show looks simple. Also looks
    like it would pay for itself quickly. Your thoughts.

  3. K says:

    Matt,
    How was my timing on calling a gold drop last thursday? I asked for $200 in a day but got $100 in a week and with you agreeing there might be more downside :P

  4. after says:

    7:30 futes. nas up 8.25, gold up a bit…
    Futures Prices
    Market Last Change %
    Crude Oil 71.08 +0.41 +0.58
    Natural Gas 4.933 +0.035 +0.72
    Corn 383.5 -1.5 -0.39
    Soybeans 1028.5 -15.5 -1.51
    30yr Bond 118.71875 -0.5625 -0.47
    10yr Note 118.640625 -0.140625 -0.12
    NY Gold 1124.5 +3.6 +0.32
    NY Silver 17.365 +0.185 +1.06
    Emini S&P 1101.25 +5.75 +0.52
    Emini Nasdaq 1800.75 +8.25 +0.46
    Emini Dow 10373 +43 +0.42

  5. 2thfixr says:

    Thanks for “tinyurl”ing my chart George. Easier to share that way.

    Yes, K, nice call on gold. Fib support at 106.88, so I’m looking to find some GLD at 107ish for a run up to 123. Thanks for the update on the Fast Money crowd. I don’t watch them anymore at all!

    SSO trade is working well so far. Trailing stop is now above my entry point, so that is always a sigh of relief! To the top of the megaphone!!! Then back to 1050 Max Pain, please!

    Drill, baby, Drill! :-)

  6. George says:

    2thfixr,

    That’s a long way to the top of the megaphone. My goals are to see which way price breaks out of Matt’s rectangle. Of course, I’ll be scalping along the way.

    Shorts still being squeezed.

  7. Kailash says:

    Unemployment coming in below expectations — the unadjusted figures a lot below –

    In the week ending Dec. 5, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 474,000, an increase of 17,000 from the previous week’s unrevised figure of 457,000.

    The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 664,865 in the week ending Dec. 5, an increase of 204,703 from the previous week.

    DOL

  8. Kailash says:

    The unemployment numbers in CA improved by far the most of any state at -28,672. “Decrease due to a shorter workweek, as well as fewer layoffs in the service industry.” Not so good.

    (In the last post, I should have said the numbers came in above expectation, but I was thinking below water.)

  9. 'K says:

    Time for nat gas to crash at 10:30

  10. George says:

    Well, isn’t that special… another SPY gap up on the daily. It just can’t get any better.

  11. George says:

    phil,

    That SPY intraday gap I was talking about yesterday on the 15min got filled today. Now it has one on the downside. If it can go higher and hit the top of the box, that would be a great possible short.

  12. Mitch says:

    George, there’s more than one way to scalp a cat! Thanks for the screenshot pic of 2thfixr’s chart.

  13. George says:

    What’s going on here is “de boyz and de girlz” are making as many waves as possible ‘cuz that’s the way profits are made. Yea for them – and us.

  14. George says:

    Mitch,

    Are you using a phone to track the market? Is that why you can’t use Flash or Silverlight?

    Just tell K what you want to do and he’ll fix it for you.

    K’s motto is: “There’s a hack for that”. :)

  15. Mitch says:

    George,

    My guess is I’m part of the 3% AT&T is complaining about using 90% of the 3G pipe. There are times when I’m just not at a PC but would like to view an interactive chart. No mobile flash or silverlight hurts the untethered!

  16. George says:

    Mitch,

    I LIKE THAT “there’s more than one way to scalp a cat!” Permission to use that at times, Sir!

  17. George says:

    I missed the play on ICE. But not on BBT, it’s 15min has been positive since late yesterday.

    SPY using 5min 9MA as support – keeps bouncing off it.

  18. after says:

    added more xiu.to jan 16.50 puts @ .3

  19. George says:

    Mitch,

    I’m in the same boat… I can’t get ATT here at the house but 200ft up the road I can get 3G.

    I use StockCharts on the iPhone. It isn’t streaming but that’s not really needed in most cases. It can update (refresh) as quickly as 15 seconds. At least the screen and all indicators can be seen well.

    I doubt if Apple will ever allow Flash or Silverlight on the iPhone. Although, Silverlight, from my understanding, is un-hackable.

    Anytime you need to see a chart, holler and we’ll post a pic.

  20. George says:

    Mitch,

    I should add that StockCharts can update as quickly as you can hit the “update” button if needed. Sort of manual streaming.

  21. phil says:

    MATT……i saw that breakout on utilities….they lead the bond market( thats why i was interested)…going to buy the XLU……..MATT are you enjoying our beautiful fla weather?……regards…..phil

  22. phil says:

    MITCH. dumped my TBT at the open…just have small amout left..did not buy any bonds yet….crash possible..i want to buy AFTER the bond crash…will add more TBT if it drops near 46

  23. after says:

    i checked a few things like srs, faz, edz, fxp, not down very much at all…why is the nas relatively strong ?

  24. George says:

    phil,

    You sound like me – a contrarian trader.

  25. Mitch says:

    George,

    You’re quite the gentleman.

    phil,

    Just 13 billion in bonds (30s – the only bond) to be auctioned. That may cause some buying pressure waaaaay out on that curve.

  26. phil says:

    LOOKS like 110.20 is going to hold in GLD..i am going to buy some there

  27. phil says:

    GEORGE..look at that 1 min spike on GLD to 110.20….suspicious?

  28. George says:

    Hmmm, that move up on SPY got smacked down rather quickly.

  29. George says:

    Phil,

    The same thing happened to SPY.

  30. George says:

    SPY could bounce here again off its 5min 36MA.

  31. phil says:

    we’re waiting……..waiting for what?….waiting for GODOT……ahhhhhhh

  32. George says:

    SPY is just a couple of ticks away from starting a downtrend.

    It needs to catch a bid soon or los endos.

  33. George says:

    SRS making another dive like yesterday. The last time it recovered but could be turning over now.

  34. phil says:

    MITCH….want to dump rest of TBT at 48.58….still dont want to buy any bonds yet

  35. Mitch says:

    Treasury futures revealing anything to you phil?

  36. George says:

    Stringm – MIA, hope he’s in on this action.

  37. phil says:

    mitch…remember we discussed test/break of TLT low @ 87.55? welllllllll..it could be a lot worse than i thought…we may bounce there but i am seeing 5 wave moves down and 3 up……ie not good ….i am letting cash build up …till i get a better handle on bonds

  38. phil says:

    mitch….if bonds break we could be looking at 5.3% ten year note…prob 6% on 30 yr

  39. George says:

    Tops on SRS.

  40. Mitch says:

    Phil,

    TBT filled that 11-10 gap (47.93) at 12:41 today.

    I may have to find a good TBT chart. If I pick up a ruler it’s to smack a cat with (just kiddin George).

  41. phil says:

    mitch…that would mean a secular turn in rates…ie i will reverse course…invest in TBT instead of bonds

  42. phil says:

    mitch..200dsma TBT right at level of last 2 peaks near 48.50….was rejected both times

  43. George says:

    Mitch,

    I use a broom to smack them cats. :)

  44. 'K says:

    George,
    I’ve been way too nice to you and spoiled you lately ;)

    International trade class is over with. 4 exams to go and I can trade for a month (assuming I don’t go back to work at my summer job) :)

  45. George says:

    K,

    Great to have you back! I want you to post those links you have everyday. You a good editor.

  46. George says:

    There’s been some intraday gapping today. Happens some time, but rarely.

  47. George says:

    SPY 15min stochastic turned up on that last bottom with a Tres Cruzar. However, it is nearing tops so it needs to turn its 15min MACD up for a good run.

  48. 'K says:

    I knew that would happen while I had no service underground. Well someone hotta stop it font you think? ;)

  49. George says:

    That’s the thing about ranging and congestion areas, there are so many support and resistance areas where price gets trapped on various time frames.

  50. Jim says:

    Something to ponder: If SRS and SKF are up when the S&P is also up, just think what they’ll do when the S&P goes down which will most likely start around Dec. 16th or so.

  51. George says:

    Jim,

    My long-range target for SKF is $80.

  52. George says:

    Phil,

    Those gaps filled, I’ll post a chart tonight to show that. I sure ain’t gonna commit suicide. :)

  53. Jim says:

    George: Do you have a core position in SKF?

  54. K says:

    SRS Green DZZ Green, SPY green? HMMM

    AAPL RED!!! :P

    yep down we go.

  55. Jim says:

    George: Merry Death’s opinion on financial stocks.
    http://pragcap.com/meredith-whitney-our-problems-are-getting-worse

  56. George says:

    Jim,

    Yes, I have a core position in SKF, SDS and SRS. They’re not huge but enough to keep me honest. I got SKF on Oct 14th, SDS Dec 4th and SRS Dec 4th, with a stop .02c below their shadow lows on those day.

    They could turn out to be swing trades depending upon what their daily/weekly charts do in the next few days.

  57. George says:

    Merry Death – Ha, LOL! hehe, I wish I had thought of that.

  58. after says:

    Jim, why a date of the 16th for the mkt going down ?

  59. 2thfixr says:

    So much to say and so little time before I have to leave the house. Great posts today folks.

    Jim, nice call on UNG so far. I think wave 5 completed at that low below the high $8 handle I pointed out and its been going nicely up since.

    GLD filled its gap, so now just the Fibs of the retracement are in play as support: 113.12, 110, and 106.88. Hence the hold at 110ish area today. Phil, I haven’t checked, is MAX PAIN on GLD at 108 still?

    Phil, is MAX PAIN on SPY still at 105? How about these apples–we go up to make new highs on the SPY or touch the megaphone top, but it is a false breakout, and we break out of the rectangle on the DOWNSIDE and plow 30 points lower by the 18th for $SPX of 1055 or so?

    Agree about the supports and resistance issues of this rectangle. Very congested trading area.

    Jim, I too have a core position in TBT, SDS, and QID. If the market heads south, I’m not going to care if I got in at SPX 1050 or 1100 when it is below 900 and falling. :-)

    Speaking of the $NDX, nice gravestone doji today. Candlestick fan here. If it breaks above the top of the high from today, the candlestick is invalid, otherwise, it is a bearish reversal pattern.

    Gotta run, but I’ll catch up with George and others tomorrow when I’m home watching things up close and personal. Adios.

  60. Kailash says:

    There is no such thing as a Santa Claus Rally — that is to say, not until after Christmas! In the meantime, there’s still lots of time to tank.

  61. 'K says:

    Santa close rally? People are selling their short stocks for a loss at the moment. After new years they will buy them again. Opposite with stocks. They will cash in profits and use the money to go short :)

  62. George says:

    Kailash,

    There is too a Santa Rally. Either the underlying or the inverse will go up. :)

    Have you hugged an Inverse today?

  63. George says:

    This daily SPY chart is getting interesting. I believe I read somewhere that price will make its way 2/3rds of the way in this pattern before it breaks. A few more days should do it.

    http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=3185f682-744e-46a8-a04a-807d92d84a18

  64. George says:

    Mitch,

    Here’s the SPY chart in pic format:

    http://i46.tinypic.com/2qdmtsj.jpg

  65. George says:

    phil,

    Good link. Tks

  66. George says:

    K,

    By the looks of the ‘holytaco” (where DO you find these things?) website, you’re preparing a long-range plan.

  67. Mitch says:

    George,

    Thanks for the chartpic. Today’s candle looks like a spinning top with a short wick and even shorter tail.

  68. Mitch says:

    phil,

    You said:
    “mitch…remember we discussed test/break of TLT low @ 87.55?”

    Yes! I remember that. Bonds and financials have been in a slow fade . . .