Wednesday’s Trading – 11/4/09

On Larry Kudlow’s CNBC show Tuesday night, Steve Leisman reported that high government officials said that they are content with the dollar’s “orderly” decline. So, it looks like The Fly just got the punch-in-the-face that he requested.

115 Responses to “Wednesday’s Trading – 11/4/09”

  1. phil says:

    SOLD DDM bought yesterday for 80c gain at open

  2. phil says:

    sold TBT for 1.14 gain at open

  3. Stringm says:

    Phil

    As I have said in the past I have a problem with wave theory, it always reminds me of the Dr. checkup I hate. That said I concede that I should explore the theory. Five waves up 1,3,5 being up 2,4 being corrective. ABC down to start a 5 wave pattern down. I think that is what I got so far, but I am not sure. Where or what is the best material to get started on this journey with?

    String

  4. after says:

    basically gone to ca$h, for now anyway.
    bestwishes

  5. phil says:

    1065 target

  6. phil says:

    STRING..if you can understand elliott wave theory you will understand why those double bottoms ..triple bottoms ..head and shoulders etc are nonsense….i explained it before but if you read what i sent you will see why

  7. Jim says:

    String: Using Elliottwave for your trading is like using your car’s rear view mirror for driving forward. The results in both cases will be a disaster. Don’t waste your time learning it.

  8. Stringm says:

    Phil

    Thanks, I’ll take peek.

    String

  9. phil says:

    STRING..you will understand why buying breakouts and selling breakdowns can be EXACTLY the wrong thing to do…..like the july ” head and shoulder ” everyone saw….SCROLL down halfway..just below the fibbonacci box you see (( SIMPLE ( zig zag)))doesnt that look like a head and shoulder ???but i warned george that it would explode upwards as it should and did……let me know if you dont understand why….phil

  10. phil says:

    JIM……i warned you of upward explosion in july….thank you very much elliott wave

  11. phil says:

    phil Says:

    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
    phil Says:

    July 7th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    george…see above chart for h and s …..see how we are toying with so called “neckline”……we will break it hard soon and convince the majority that h and s is in effect….then we go up near spx 1000 for final top dragging all bears kicking and screaming….be careful george
    >>>>2 th FIXER. …this was my post about head and shoulder nonsense back in july befor upward EXPLOSION
    JIM>>>>>>>in case you did not see this……………phil

  12. Jim says:

    Phil: If Elliottwave really worked reliably why is Prechter only right once every 27 years???

  13. phil says:

    JIM….he is not being objective…..i abandoned his adivice during the bull up to 2000 because he was calling every scary drop off a peak a truncated 5th wave implying the trend was turning down… anyone could see it was a 3 wave correction against the uptrend….he was biased ..brilliant people have trouble being objective

  14. phil says:

    JIM….scary drops off peaks in 3 waves are the hallmark of BULL market corrections…

  15. phil says:

    BUYING more UUP here……i want dollars

  16. phil says:

    DOLLAR upward blast coming soon to a screen near you..( “Screen near you “quote courtesy of MATT)

  17. phil says:

    the next phase of dollar rally i think its a C wave coming up….should correspond to SCARY C wave( sorry scotty) down in stocks to END this correction mid november and begin HUGE SANTA rally…..QUOTE me on this JIM

  18. phil says:

    K…i am starting to remind myself of you with all these posts..lol

  19. Jim says:

    Phil: I think Prechter was wrong so much because he fought the Fed. When the Fed starts to tighten, that’s when this bull market ends. Until then it’s up-up and away.

  20. phil says:

    JIM..i believe the fed is a follower not a leader…look for 1 month t bill rate start to rise…the MARKET will tell the fed WHEN to hike…they only FOLLOW the market you will be weeks behind the curve if you wait for FED

  21. 'K says:

    I’m resisting to post phil. Lol
    Am afraid 13 points might not be good enough for Julie or Matt. :)

  22. phil says:

    JIM think of BERNANKE as a dog on leash..13 wk T bill is his MASTER..lol

  23. phil says:

    K..i am not posting any more until you catch up to me ……lol

  24. 'K says:

    Phil, you have a long time to catch up to me. I usually pass you after 5pm. Haha
    You have to admit some of what I post is helpful (0.5% of my posts LOL)

  25. phil says:

    K …MUCH more than 0.5% ….. at least 0.51%…..lol

  26. Mitch says:

    K,

    I’m in a winning trade because of the “stock operator” concepts you posted. 2/3 in and it’s going my way!

  27. phil says:

    MITCH….BKX….BANK index shows 3 wave rally…ie no bottom yet…hope your trade is not long banks…..lol

  28. 'K says:

    Mitch,
    I hope that mentality works well. I’m in 3 trades with that method :)

  29. Stringm says:

    Phil

    You think TLT will make it down to 87 range?

    String

  30. phil says:

    STRING…months ago i discussed with mitch to dump his tlt because a test /break of 87.50 was coming…..thats why i sold almost all my zero coupon treasuries….they would get killed….but i will be buying with both fists on break of the lows

  31. Stringm says:

    Phil

    I will buy with fists and toes. Let’s make it a consolidated effort :-)

    String

  32. phil says:

    STRING…buy 10 yr notes ….not TLT…there is no maturity date …TLT is forever

  33. phil says:

    STRING…are you feeling back to normal now???

  34. Stringm says:

    Phil

    I am already back to walking between 3-5 miles a day. i can’t build up to the 7 miles I was doing just yet. Stamina is coming back, and pain is completly gone. 2-3 weeks and I should be perfect.

    String

  35. scotty says:

    phil,best dump those dollars

  36. phil says:

    SCOTTY…i want MORE dollars……

  37. scotty says:

    go for it

  38. scotty says:

    Hey Phil get your wheel borrow out for all those dollars,seen as how emerging economies are buying gold.

  39. Stringm says:

    Scotty

    Just call this Zimbawe, USA.

    String

  40. phil says:

    SCOTTY…….oh yes lets buy into the blowofff…remember when those central banks dumped their gold in 2004 and 2005??? nice timing

  41. phil says:

    Scotty…..they dont take gold at mcdonalds…you NEED dollars

  42. K says:

    But they do serve GOLDen fries ;)

  43. phil says:

    GEORGE….yes it may come to Zimbabwe usa…just make sure you have more dollars than anyone else in case those burgers cost 200 bucks each

  44. scotty says:

    May need 10 bucks for a big mac.

  45. scotty says:

    Phil convert your gold back to dollars in 2 years after the dollar falls to .50 and gold is at $2000

  46. Stringm says:

    Phil

    You have drawn all the fire today. I am still with you though. Your logic always is good, even if your timing has a slop factor in it :-)

    String

  47. scotty says:

    Can’t raise rates cause com.& Res. Real Estate is still in the crapper

  48. phil says:

    SCOTTY….i see 5 waves up from the dollar lows oct 21 …i want to see if those lows hold…that could be the bottom…for a while at least ..if correct a sharp dollar rally is coming as a C wave up……that ties in with SCARY WAVE C down in stocks mid november…..lets see what happens

  49. Stringm says:

    Scotty

    If they had not done away with Mark to Market, the crapper would already be flowing over.

    String

  50. scotty says:

    Thats all we can do,I read thru this fed statement that the economy is a lot weaker than they are leading on.

  51. scotty says:

    Watch the canary in the coal mine,its red.R2K

  52. phil says:

    STRING……you described me to a ” T “…..i am usually correct but my timing is crappy

  53. phil says:

    SCOTTY….also 3 waves up in BKX says banks go lower

  54. scotty says:

    yeah I see GS not doing anything today

  55. Stringm says:

    Too volatile for me. I have put my few sheckles in my pocket and I am gone. See y’all tomorrow, have a good evening

    String

  56. phil says:

    STRING…..hasta!

  57. Mitch says:

    Phil, thanks. I have no special drawing rights at IMF but my country does. India doesn’t either and bought 1/2 of the quota at market prices. So, countries with SDR don’t need to buy gold. I don’t see what happened with India buying as bullish for the metal. I do see upside in India though.

    As for $, there should be enough in circulation from lower mortgage payments and energy costs reduction. Libor is at .25./. – resets are toothless tigers but we can look for that to change when Trichet stops the infinity amount of Euro loans. Stimulus to states had helped there budgets and the infrastructure portions should help with some jobs and tax revenue. Sorry, but contrary to foreign opinion we’re not wallering in Fed Res. Notes.

    There really are a bit of green shoots. Please define bit. Lol

  58. phil says:

    BKX breaking to new daily low..3 wave rally takes its toll..new daily lows ahead

  59. phil says:

    MITCH…i am curious …what is your investment that is working via jesse livermores advice??

  60. Mitch says:

    Phil,

    I am in EAT. With first basis at 12.48. Second buy was 12.95. I am being threatened now but I can take it or leave it now.

  61. phil says:

    PRECHTER coming up on CNBC……he is worth a free listen

  62. scotty says:

    He is very bullsih on the dollar

  63. 'K says:

    Matt and Julie,
    Did 15 points count for an up move? ;)

  64. scotty says:

    Canary is dying

  65. phil says:

    MITCH……i see EAT breaking the 12.38 lows….i see a 3 wave rally it just overlapped the first wave ….i would bail…..but take 1/2 away at least…….

  66. Mitch says:

    Scotty, sing this: “I want my baby back baby back baby back.”

  67. phil says:

    SCOTTY…prechter thinks dollar goes up for years…heck im just looking for a couple of weeks

  68. scotty says:

    me too

  69. scotty says:

    Mitch,don’t want my baby back I want S&P to follow that birdie

  70. Mitch says:

    Phil, I was afraid of that. It is somewhat protected. Risky business baby!

  71. scotty says:

    Maybe cisco dumps

  72. Mitch says:

    Scotty, this market can be liquidated at anytime.

  73. Mitch says:

    Aftermarket I noticed $ weakness and market strength but whatever reason caused that seemed to subside and the futures are lower no?

  74. K says:

    Mitch,
    The futures got crushed by 20EMA daily at 1058
    So did the S&P at 1060

    check it out and let me know :D

    Next Up or should I say down? 1011 (1045-30= 1015 is it not? well Julie this one’s for you)

  75. K says:

    Goldman Sachs’ (GS) Q3 trading record: In 64 trading days, it lost money on just one, and made more than $100M/day on 36 days

    Q3 2009′s winning percentage has come in at 98.4%

  76. Stringm says:

    Mitch

    The CEO of EAT is Doug Brooks, and i played High School Ball with him. Now you are almost famous :-)

    String

  77. Mitch says:

    K,

    I see the 20ema resistance.

  78. Mitch says:

    Stringm,

    I’m so glad that you’re almost back in the saddle. 3+ miles a day is great! I take a segway to the lightrail and that’s it. Just kidding. I let the sun shine illuminate on me and walk a bit – when I’m not running from scary Scotty and K.

  79. K says:

    Hey!
    I’m not scary!!!

  80. Mitch says:

    K, once I was sitting long and there was a market war going on – tremendous volley of fire both ways. Scotty kept the bear speak up and I was enjoying the taste of my blood and then . . . . WOOSH! Scotty said, “raking them in now.” I was stunned. Scotty, that was you wasn’t it?

    K, I’ve been axed by your calls too!

  81. K says:

    Mitch,
    :D I have disclaimed

    “As always use caution as these are my observations and I do not make decisions for anyone other than myself.”

    I carry no Axe! I just take soup away from you. I’ve been axed by my own calls Mitch, we all have

  82. Mitch says:

    K,

    Never been hurt by you K. You’ll call for 15 down and I’m long. And I get axed. Self inflicted baby! I’ll sit sometimes – wasn’t that a Livermore lesson?

  83. K says:

    Livermore went bankrupt 3+ times after making millions :) by bankrupt i mean $0 left in pocket lol

  84. Mitch says:

    K,

    Ever take advice about a girl problem from a person that never suffered a heartbreak?

  85. K says:

    Girl Problem? WHat girl? haha

  86. K says:

    love the first link big time Yerk. I’m very visual.

  87. Yerk says:

    K, I love the source of the second one :-) Merideath seems to have released something in the same direction today, too. Have not seen a link yet.

  88. 2thfixr says:

    Nice job K on the rally. :-) Not quite as high as I was looking for, so my automated trades didn’t kick in. But, the Bradley date is still next week, so perhaps we’ll rally into that and hit them. I’m trying to exercise patience and wait for the market to come to me.

    Phil, nice profit on the TBT. Did you grab any later in the day before it went to $48? I’m still holding some at this point, but looking to fade the rally. I’m loving EWT, but still look at TA and patterns to look for price moves/timing. I feel for you on the timing issue–it is something I’m working very hard on!

  89. K says:

    The S&P 500 Financials Index slumped 1.5 percent, the most among 10 industries, after the House vote and as analyst Meredith Whitney said the biggest U.S. banks may face declining values on home-loan bonds with government backing as the Fed prepares to end its $1.25 trillion purchase program.

    is that what my girl said Yerk? :P

    Btw for anyone interested in some free movie time watch PBS’s The Ascent Of Money (2hrs long but awesome)

  90. Mitch says:

    Yerk, appreciate those links. I read all of the second one. The first will take some time but I see the premise.

  91. scotty says:

    Where is Phli??? His dollar is slowly rising

  92. K says:

    Phil is a trader by day and emergency room worker at night ;) (just kidding phil)

  93. Julie says:

    K,
    Thanks for the pump. One more and I can
    turn the accounts over to Adam and let
    him make them a fortune.

  94. Mitch says:

    Julie, I have an eye on Adam as well. His marketing material is pretty compelling.