Wednesday’s Trading – 9/30/09

The XME has hardly rallied at all this week, and is, by far, the worst performing sector since the market’s peak on the 23rd. It is down 6.4% since then, which is almost twice as much as the second-worse XHB. The XME’s five-bar pattern on the daily chart is exactly what a bear flag should look like. A 100% completion would target the gap from September 9th down at 42.38. The SMN, the inverse ETF, would of course shoot up if the XME dropped. But we have big economic reports Wednesday morning, and if they fuel a rally, the XME might be expected to play “catch up” and outperform to the upside.

Breadth got very stretched on Monday, so a bullish take on Tuesday’s action would be that the market worked off a short-term overbought condition while only giving up a few points in the process.

Film at 11.

In other news… The new, giant, bunker-busters won’t be ready until December or January. So, probably no strike on Iran before then.

115 Responses to “Wednesday’s Trading – 9/30/09”

  1. George says:

    K,

    The generic iPhone is limited in its ability to run most popular apps like Java, Silverlight, Flash, etc. There’s only one approved browser… Safari.

    However, a “jailbroken” iPhone can run almost anything. It is a relatively safe procedure that can be reversed. The downside is that once broken the iPhone will now be venerable to all the viruses and such, associated with freedom.

    My take on the iTouch popularity downturn is that one can get an iPhone at the same price and service plan costs as the Touch, so why have separate devices?

    With 72,000+ apps (most are free or very inexpensive, like .99c) available for the iPhone, there is sufficient functionality to fill any perceived gaps.

  2. scotty says:

    Thar she blows,stick a fork i her

  3. George says:

    This is Phil’s scary move before the next push up?

  4. George says:

    All of this downage because of the good news that came out. Let’s see if SKF can get a buck today.

    K is pulling for -777 on the DOW. :)

  5. Randall says:

    They said no sequels after Scary Movie 6, but maybe this is 7?

    Europe sure starting tanking right after our open, Larry is in bear heaven right now.

  6. Mitch says:

    Good Morning George:

    You might be old enough to remember Bob Seger’s “Ship of Fools.” Some of these massive waves down really make one feel alone and one has to pull one’s own switches when it’s time.

  7. Randall says:

    The Chicago Purchasing Managers’ Index for September has just been released. It came in at 46.1, which is below the 52.0 that was widely expected and down from the 50.0 that was registered in August.

    Nothing screams recovery like an impending CIT bankruptcy and a horrendous PMI report.

  8. phil says:

    GEORGE…….dow has overlapped ….ndx and spx are still ok but upward acceleration is looking SHAKY….oops one of my horns fell off….i am 1/3 DEVOLVED from BULL to CALF……….

  9. phil says:

    ERGO….short hedges are in order again

  10. scotty says:

    your bull is dead his other horn just fell off

  11. phil says:

    GEORGE….see $TYX is still struggling with resistance even tho stocks down??….i want to sell more bonds on further rally

  12. George says:

    Mitch,

    Yes, I remember Seger. I also remember his “Like A Rock” where his fans got very upset when he allowed GM to use that song in their commercials. Silly.

  13. phil says:

    SCOTTY….no…..upward acceleration is less likely….still can work higher

  14. George says:

    So, the question is, will shorts hold on like a rock or will they cover like jello?

  15. George says:

    phil,

    I think you may have something here with the spooky moves.

  16. Mitch says:

    Phil:

    TYX is looking at busting support as yields head lower. Not getting your referring to a resistance – I see it sitting on key support.

  17. Mitch says:

    George:

    re: Seger

    They were his Ford fans maybe?

  18. phil says:

    mitch….yes $ tyx is yield so u r correct…i trade bonds so i look at it as price resistance to sell at

  19. George says:

    Mitch,

    Yeah, I may have gotten that wrong… one of those trucks.

  20. George says:

    I’ve drawn two horizontal lines on the 1min SPY. Waiting for it to break one way or the other.

  21. phil says:

    MITCH…long ago i posted i want to sell my 30 yr t bonds at 4.03%..i did that yesterday…..now if YIELD can bust SUPPORT….i will start unloading my ZERO COUPON treasuries into that YIELD decline…as ZEROES zoom up in price

  22. Mitch says:

    No George, his Ford fans couldn’t have him giving the rock status to a Chevy so they complained perhaps. Neither of them are rocks anymore – fuel cost and motor strain pushing a heavy chevy is prohibitive. Matt will probably get around to posting on energy at some point – I can’t wait.

  23. junglegirl says:

    George, looks like a bear flag to me. Volume diminishing thru construction. Supposed to resolve to the downside.

    Bear flags… wow… remember those? Been awhile.

  24. George says:

    Mitch,

    Gotcha. Just goes to show how much of an impression those commercials made on me. Either that or the lack of retention on my part. :)

  25. George says:

    JG,

    Thanks. I’m getting a buy on SPY though.

  26. George says:

    JG, I wouldn’t know a bear flag if it hit me. There has to be some retracement here with that knee-jerk move down. I got some SSO when the upper trendline was broken along with a Tres Amigos. May not go far but the 15min sto is starting to turn up.

  27. George says:

    BBT cleared its 5min 36MA, working on 15min 36MA. Nice stock.

  28. George says:

    JG,

    What time frame do you see that bear flag?

  29. 'K says:

    Spy sell on my system. Of course I called it 2 days ago.

  30. paula says:

    String,
    If we can go below the SPX 21 DMA, we will
    have it made.
    Do you keep a notebook on the market? If
    you don’t, you might want to consider it.
    What do you want to trade? What fits your
    comfort level? What tools will you use to
    trade with? Suggest you take a look at
    OEX index Jan call options when this SPX
    cycle hits bottom. In the last cycle the OEX
    bottom was around 408. The move up took
    it to 499. If you bought Oct call options
    30 points out of the money, you would
    have made a ton of money in 11 weeks.
    The nice thing about trading the cycle is
    that you have room for error and you still
    make a small fortune.

  31. phil says:

    1057.66 OVERLAP needed to keep upward acceleration alive

  32. George says:

    SPY working its way up to the 5min 36MA… at least in that direction I don’t see much resistance.

  33. phil says:

    call it 1058

  34. George says:

    BBT ICE bucking the trend. SPY now backing off 5min 36MA. Could try again.

  35. phil says:

    SCOTTY……..i am starting to EVOLVE again ….my horn is growing back

  36. scotty says:

    just a spike yet ?

  37. scotty says:

    Or should I say nub

  38. George says:

    SKF now at 5min 36MA support. Time to buy if 1min gives signal.

  39. junglegirl says:

    George,

    I was looking at the 1 and 5 minute charts. The longer a formation lasts, the higher up you can see it. Sometimes flags show up on daily or weekly charts, where the whole flag lasts a period of months.

    http://stockcharts.com/help/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:flag_pennant_continu

    As you are the ScalpMaster and have special superpowers allowing you to scalp a 15 second move, all this is likely irrelevant for you.

    Current action could be a subwave 4, piercing the 38 Fib retracement. Today will be interesting. Already has been!

  40. phil says:

    george…i still have no short hedges yet……still waiting to see if overlap

  41. phil says:

    i was looking through the dow stock charts ..they look crappy…i will short via DXD

  42. Stringm says:

    Paula

    I will have to get back to you. I am having back issues and can not sit for any length of time. I have a visit at the Docs this PM.

    String

  43. scotty says:

    Phil any difference in ddm puts and dxd calls?

  44. George says:

    JG,

    Great info. I have stockcharts and didn’t even know that stuff was there. Shame on me.

    I’m always trying to learn all I can about price movement and patterns to become “new and improved”. I just bought $160 of trading materials. So all of this is relevant.

    My trades begin as a scalp but many end up longer than the requisite 15sec. Like the BBT this morning was at 10:25 and I just exited. Or SSO was a keeper all AM so far. So scalp is the default and trends is the hope.

    Once I am aware of patterns or whatever, I can see them clearly after I learn what to look for. Matt pointed out divergences and I dream about them at night now. ;)

    Thanks for the link and brain picking. It’s always helpful.

  45. phil says:

    scotty….i dont trade options…. most expire worthless

  46. George says:

    Stringm,

    Here’s to hoping you feel better. That’s the worse problem to have because it’s affected by all other movements.

  47. phil says:

    if we do get upward acceleration options could be used…otherwise if it goes slowly you could be right and lose money

  48. George says:

    SKF broke down below its 5min 36MA. Next stop 15min. SPY is still racing toward its 15min marker.

  49. scotty says:

    depends how far out you buy them,hardest thing to do is stick to your trading plan.don’t know how many times i tried to eek out another 5-10% and have the market turn.

  50. phil says:

    spx riding upper bb …looks like we will confirm upside continuation

  51. phil says:

    i will NOT be putting on any short hedges

  52. Larry says:

    Intraday today looks like 2008-2009. So the next 3 hours will show us the next 2 years :)

  53. scotty says:

    wow what a turn around now what? whipsaw

  54. phil says:

    phil Says:

    September 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
    SCOTTY..ABOVE 1039.47 UPWARD ACCELERATION STILL ALIVE http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_goypolxEFd4/SsLVwSEDyKI/AAAAAAAACD0/PORWPWOIPnc/s1600-h/SPX60min2.png

  55. paula says:

    String,
    Hope you have a quick recovery.

  56. phil says:

    IF this is WAVE 3 of 3 up now there will be no doubt SOON

  57. phil says:

    STRING…..hope your doc can get you some relief…health is #1

  58. phil says:

    FAIR WARNING…..being short here can be hazardous to your WEALTH

  59. scotty says:

    Lets see if the bulls expended all there energy getting this market to even,need a nice green push here to get this back over 1062?

  60. scotty says:

    9825 close

  61. George says:

    Tres Cruzars alive and well on SPY today.

    Set’em up bar keep… green shooters all ’round for the patrons.

  62. phil says:

    ABOVE 1070 there is FULL IGNITION and LIFT OFF !!!

  63. George says:

    SPY coming up on some serious tops.

  64. George says:

    Larry,

    It ain’t over with yet.

  65. George says:

    I mean, the DAY isn’t over with yet. It could drop just as quickly. These define turning points?

  66. scotty says:

    yes we dropped into the close the last 2 days so we are no way out of the woods yet.

  67. paula says:

    Glenn Neely sent out a CYA…S&P 500 forecasts
    are difficult to make right now due to the market
    phase.

    String,
    I took a quick look at how much you would have
    made buying OEX Oct call options 30 points out
    of the money. Each option would have cost you
    around $900.00 and would have been worth
    around $6000.00 11 weeks later. If you had
    bought 10 options, you would have made
    around $51,000.00 while rocking in your chair
    for 11 weeks.

  68. paula says:

    String,
    SPX options have a higher leverage than the
    OEX options do…but they also cost more
    and you cannot mark them to market until
    ops. exp. You can mark OEX options to
    market any time you want to, and that’s
    why market makers try for a little premium
    in the OEX options.

  69. scotty says:

    we hit major constipation at 1061 again,need major push to get thru here

  70. phil says:

    paula…dont you love neely?…..wasnt he just on crash alert a few weeks ago????then cancelled it…..like rosanna rosannadanna….nevvverrrmind

  71. phil says:

    JUNGLEGIRL……i cant believe the dollar has much more downside….i am selling my gold into this rally…..im with you…going to buy UUP soon

  72. scotty says:

    phil is that chart suppose to show a top at 10700

  73. scotty says:

    Just like clockwork 2:55 and the market goes down 4 out 5 days.

  74. phil says:

    SCOTTY…the spiral calendar pinpoints dates…..top due oct 4 to 11…his best guess is oct 9……level is not considered only date

  75. scotty says:

    market just shoved its finger down its throat

  76. vy says:

    Matt,
    What happened to your treasuries data?

  77. phil says:

    put on short hedges at 1pm surge…….covered 1/2 of shorts now

  78. George says:

    scotty,

    Question is, will the market keep the finger down its throat. lol

  79. George says:

    SPY ain’t giving up. It needs to fill that gap at 107. !

  80. phil says:

    GEORGE…this sideways thrashing is looking like a triangle…if so a post triangle thrust is coming….remember we saw that before??

  81. scotty says:

    George,honestly i have no idea anymore,when we could not break 1061 i should have figured we would drop.In hindsight that was so obvious

  82. phil says:

    scotty…believe it or not risk is still to the UPSIDE….i am favoring a 4th wave triangle now …

  83. K says:

    NO UPSIDE. cool it phil
    lol

  84. phil says:

    K….you should be glad if it is a4th wave….that means correction OR WORSE is near

  85. George says:

    SPY has worked its way back up to 5min 36ma so the shots are running scared… no commitment. YET.

  86. George says:

    shorts, not shots

  87. George says:

    If SKF 5min crosses down below its 36MA that will make two Humpty-Dumbties for it. That’s good trading scenario.

  88. scotty says:

    We gotcha George

  89. scotty says:

    wow idi that get ugly,in a blink of an eye -15 to -45

  90. K says:

    George,
    looks like i wont get my 1035 by tomorrow but it was close. can’t fight goldman I guess. might have to settle for 1053 :P

  91. Mitch says:

    Question for ‘ya K – is GS your Joker or your Batman?

  92. Mitch says:

    K: Thought I’d ask. Have fun.

  93. K says:

    :P
    I guess I should not believe in conspiracies huh? :P

  94. K says:

    got my ortho core paula. gonna start with one a day instead of 6

  95. K says:

    LMFAO

    Bank of America’s Chief Executive Ken Lewis to Retire Dec. 31
    No successor named.

    Really? awww

  96. paula says:

    K,
    Good luck with your Ortho Core. If you
    get a chance visit the AOR home and
    read how they formulate their products.